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		<title>By: idioelectric</title>
		<link>http://www.bsidebeats.com/bending-the-alesis-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1104</link>
		<dc:creator>idioelectric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 03:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Alesis HR16-b drum machine  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alesis HR-16</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alesis HR-16</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 03:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bending the Alesis [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bsidebeats.com &#187; video from saturday night&#8217;s set</title>
		<link>http://www.bsidebeats.com/bending-the-alesis-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-337</link>
		<dc:creator>bsidebeats.com &#187; video from saturday night&#8217;s set</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Alesis HR-16B drum [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bsidebeats.com &#187; white collar criminal &#8211; live mix and new toys</title>
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		<dc:creator>bsidebeats.com &#187; white collar criminal &#8211; live mix and new toys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] year&#8217;s version is a noisy, glitchy, live-in-the-studio jam on my drum machine with a ring modulator (driven by the Good Will Audio Generator), a crusty old sampler, an optical [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opps, not really one data pin so much as checking whether the pins that you are crossing actually output an audio signal or whether it&#039;s a digital signal which is then processed somewhere else. If it is an audio output, off each pin, then a switch and a pot would offer all sorts of possibilities.

I don&#039;t think the crossings of pins would create voltage starving so much as have the singles fighting each other and being in phase and out of phase all over the place and thats what would create the glitchy sounds. A straight voltage starve on the supply pin would , well I&#039;m not really sure, but for starters it might mis-bias the internals and have gating type effects while also having more dropout on fuller sounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opps, not really one data pin so much as checking whether the pins that you are crossing actually output an audio signal or whether it&#8217;s a digital signal which is then processed somewhere else. If it is an audio output, off each pin, then a switch and a pot would offer all sorts of possibilities.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the crossings of pins would create voltage starving so much as have the singles fighting each other and being in phase and out of phase all over the place and thats what would create the glitchy sounds. A straight voltage starve on the supply pin would , well I&#8217;m not really sure, but for starters it might mis-bias the internals and have gating type effects while also having more dropout on fuller sounds.</p>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
		<link>http://www.bsidebeats.com/bending-the-alesis-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-195</link>
		<dc:creator>felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I see where you&#039;re going, in fact I&#039;m already there! I saw this one the other day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe1ButmzNWY and it made me wonder about exactly what you suggest re automated switching between the pins.

Not sure what you mean about checking the data output - how would I go about this?

And the voltage starving thing, is that what&#039;s happening already within the chip when the pins are &quot;crossed&quot; to create some of the glitchy sounds?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I see where you&#8217;re going, in fact I&#8217;m already there! I saw this one the other day: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe1ButmzNWY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe1ButmzNWY</a> and it made me wonder about exactly what you suggest re automated switching between the pins.</p>
<p>Not sure what you mean about checking the data output &#8211; how would I go about this?</p>
<p>And the voltage starving thing, is that what&#8217;s happening already within the chip when the pins are &#8220;crossed&#8221; to create some of the glitchy sounds?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, you gotta look up the easy little sequencers one can build using a counter chip, the 4016... or is it the 4017? actually it&#039;s not a counter so much as a sequencer of sorts. The input takes a pulse and passes it along ten different outputs depending on the sequence you choose and it had a reset so it can be 8 steps. A search on LED counter should get you there. I&#039;ve been doing stuff for ages concerning the 4017 with a 555 counter and then using a 4066 which is a set of mosfet switches where the input pulse turns on a switch, each 4066 has four switches, spst. so you can see where I&#039;m going with this?

By having the 555 counter controlling the 4017 which steps out a sequence, then the 4066 doing your switching you can automate the patterns of switching on your drum machine.

If I were you I&#039;d check first if the data output from the chip is a straight soundfile by inputing it to an amp, through a cap of course, and that would give you the basis of how the system works.It would make sense then as the sounds are modulating each other as opposed to straight mixing. That said, given it is the case, then putting a resistor on the end of each signal would mix them and a pot accros them would define the area between modulation, of sorts, and mixing.

Another thing, which may or may not work, is starving the chip on its voltage input. It&#039;s most probably, if it can be done, a very small span of voltage, that send the outputs into territory where they just work. Too much voltage starving and the chip won&#039;t have enough current to operate and would most likely shut down but there may be an area that yeilds interesting results.

I like the idea of the Floppy drive input. Then you can use the controller you make for other circuit bending tasks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, you gotta look up the easy little sequencers one can build using a counter chip, the 4016&#8230; or is it the 4017? actually it&#8217;s not a counter so much as a sequencer of sorts. The input takes a pulse and passes it along ten different outputs depending on the sequence you choose and it had a reset so it can be 8 steps. A search on LED counter should get you there. I&#8217;ve been doing stuff for ages concerning the 4017 with a 555 counter and then using a 4066 which is a set of mosfet switches where the input pulse turns on a switch, each 4066 has four switches, spst. so you can see where I&#8217;m going with this?</p>
<p>By having the 555 counter controlling the 4017 which steps out a sequence, then the 4066 doing your switching you can automate the patterns of switching on your drum machine.</p>
<p>If I were you I&#8217;d check first if the data output from the chip is a straight soundfile by inputing it to an amp, through a cap of course, and that would give you the basis of how the system works.It would make sense then as the sounds are modulating each other as opposed to straight mixing. That said, given it is the case, then putting a resistor on the end of each signal would mix them and a pot accros them would define the area between modulation, of sorts, and mixing.</p>
<p>Another thing, which may or may not work, is starving the chip on its voltage input. It&#8217;s most probably, if it can be done, a very small span of voltage, that send the outputs into territory where they just work. Too much voltage starving and the chip won&#8217;t have enough current to operate and would most likely shut down but there may be an area that yeilds interesting results.</p>
<p>I like the idea of the Floppy drive input. Then you can use the controller you make for other circuit bending tasks.</p>
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